Sheila Whitescorn, Certified Intuitive Life Coach, rejoins Yo as guest co-host to discuss Viola Davis’ movie, The Woman King and her book, Finding Me: A Memoir. While it took Viola 7 years to make The Woman King, this episode has been cooking since last April. You’ll hear our account of why this was all part of the plan. In the episode we explored the dimensions of Viola’s superpower of resiliency which included:
· Lack of Academy Award movie nominations
· V’s kick ass role in The Woman King
· Being our own kind of warrior and who taught us
· V’s childhood traumas and lessons in courage
· Living life with passion and purpose
· How we experience V’s authenticity
· V’s view of making it
We’ll look deeply into the movie and book to uncover her leadership to be a majestic warrior and the formula for killing shame.
Spoiler alert: If you haven’t seen the movie, you might want to skip 11:24–13:00.
We hope you’ll enjoy this episode!
Here’s some links for sources mentioned in the episode:
Previous episodes with Sheila.
Oprah Interview Clip (Available on Netflix)
You can watch The Woman King here: ROW8, Prime Video, Vudu, Redbox. or Apple TV on your Roku device.
More about Sheila:
Before coaching, Sheila had a successful corporate career in Internal Communications, working in the technology, retail, and healthcare sectors. She's an Atmana Academy graduate with dual-certified Traditional and Intuitive Life Coaching credentials. Additionally, she is certified in Law of Attraction Life Coaching and Chakra Healing, trained as a Usui Reiki Master, and has a Bachelor of Arts degree in Social Work.
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Welcome to episode 55, of girl, take the lead or each week.
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We explore Womanhood and Leadership and I'm your host.
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Yo, Kenny this week. Sheila whites corn returns to
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join me to discuss all things. Viola her movie, a woman King,
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and her book Finding Me A Memoir.
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We love Viola and admire her leadership tenacity
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authenticity, but most of all her Alien see what a great way
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to kick off Black History Month. You know, usually we started
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episode with a nice introduction from our guests, but in this
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one, Sheila and I just jumped right into it.
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We had just a few things to say about the lack of Academy Award
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nominations for the woman King. So, since we missed that intro,
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let me introduce Sheila to you. She's a certified intuitive life
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coach and master healer with a mission to guide.
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Vicious and spiritually minded. People to release their
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energetic blocks so they can achieve a more authentic
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fulfilling. So LED life her superpowers
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include empowering her clients to transform their lives.
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By strengthening their intuitive skills, manifesting goals and
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becoming more resilient. You may remember, Sheila, from
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episodes, 15, 16, 17, and 20 episodes. 15 16 and 17 were
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about the emotions outlined in Brunei Brown's atlas of the
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heart and twenty was when we had fun with Sheryl Crow.
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Today, you're going to hear us talk about the timing, it took
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to do this episode with my research and time.
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It takes to read a book. A typical episode can take two
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to four weeks, but this episode cooked about nine months, we
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explain why in the episode and how we came to see it as part of
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a bigger plan. Spoiler alert, if you plan to
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see the woman King and don't want to know some of the plot,
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You may want to skip around 18 minutes, 33 seconds to about 19
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minutes. We hope that you'll see yourself
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in Viola story, and embrace your own vulnerability and
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authenticity as we did. So, here you go.
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Enjoy the listen. well, I was thinking about the timing and
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how it kept getting pushed out, and I think it's interesting,
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That we both were thinking she was going to get nominated a lot
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of other people to thinking. What if the ironic about this is
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the underlying theme of this conversation is around
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resilience? Yes, resilient.
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Yes. Isn't it interesting that she
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didn't get nominated and for her?
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She probably didn't even Flinch because she's she's pretty
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rooted in her resiliency. Yeah, you can see and what we've
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heard from her interviews and that sort of thing.
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And I thought isn't that the lesson is in that, you know what
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I'm saying? It's like for all of us not just
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on a massive like global scale, you know, on a much broader
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scale. And I also thought, the reason
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why I wasn't trying to complicate by sending more
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articles, but It's you know, the the fact that she hasn't been
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nominated has actually caused a lot of conversation happening
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from not just from viewers but from people in the business.
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Yes yes. And I'm sure it will come up in
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the topic. You know when they do their
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acceptance speeches and things, I think it's it's just always
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interesting as you said timing for us to I I identified with
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her right away when this happened as somebody who thought
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I should have gotten promoted. You know, and people coming up
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to me saying, oh, you know, you're going to get promoted.
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Yeah, you're going to get promoted, then it doesn't happen
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and somebody else gets promoted and how in the moment does it
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really change who you are? Or what you're doing.
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The answer is no. You know, I just can see her
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hopefully handling it better than I did, which was always of
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the. Well, I'll show them.
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I'm going to be so much better than I was before and I'm
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actually going to just keep going II.
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Think she's of the same mind you know, like she's probably got
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her next project already in the, you know, that she's on and
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she's already doing I think I I think it's just something we can
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all relate to. Yeah.
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So I really I mean I think it's fascinating, you know, that that
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we're doing it now but we're having the conversation now as
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opposed to you know, six months ago or four months ago, it
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almost it almost needed to happen now instead of then, yeah
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because of the lesson there is a lesson in here for other people
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to actually because I think part of the lesson, part of the
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reason why we're doing this, Sewed really isn't about us.
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It's about, there's some type of evidence that's going to be
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resonating with listeners out there and they're actually
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having using our voice to have the conversation.
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Helps other people connect the dots and look at this
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differently because in the past, people just kind of like Let It
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wash over us like oh the nomination seen out, I don't
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think anything about it. Well the thing is is that we do
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need to be thinking and noticing because it's it's really not
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okay. Okay, that these themes still
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keep happening and it's not going to it's not going to just
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be one person that makes the human gets everybody, you know?
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It's the key the collective. Yeah, having a shift and voicing
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their opinions about it. I totally agree.
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She almost doesn't need to do anything because her Advocates
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are going to do it for her. You know.
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I think you would call them, you know little angels going out
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there and Ambassadors on my behalf.
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All the spirits are out there going on.
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Now we got this one, handled by Allah.
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You just you just be you and we're going to take care of this
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in the thing. That's so interesting about it
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is the reason why is because she lives again, we don't know her
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personally but from everything we've seen and what we've read
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and what we've gathered, she seems to be someone that lives
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in integrity and actually puts Out a lot of positivity and no
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matter what her struggles have been.
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She's taken the high road, she definitely.
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So when you think about, who, who is resonating with her, and
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who her Inner Circle is they are certainly holding her up and for
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her, I mean, she didn't even Flinch over this.
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I'm sure. But I'm not going to.
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I mean, it would be very curious to see what type of conversation
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she had with her husband. Because this project was a
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comet, you know, they work Together, I guess sometimes we
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need the leader we need and we need someone to show the way and
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lead us to be better and I think that's something that she's even
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said before. I think it was when she was
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talking with Oprah. She said you know I am living
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for my peace and joy. I want to be happy in my life.
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Happiness is a journey. I help people live better.
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And I think like you said they're this is just such a huge
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lesson for all of us about humility about, you know, all
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this reflection on she should have been, it's not about her,
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it's about us, you know? And our sense of fairness, you
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know, and boy she's worked really hard therefore she should
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or she She lifted so many people up in the movie she should be.
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You know it's just all of us coming from our our place and we
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get to look at that and I think that's what she says her Mission
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as an actress. Has you know, where she accepted
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the Academy Award as best supporting actress for fences?
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She said something about, we are so lucky, we are in what, how
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did it go? We are able to Oh, people
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themselves, and reflect back on that and, and show them their
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life. I love that.
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And I think that's her Mission. When you have a mission like
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that, these little things. Like some Hollywood.
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It's, it's almost like she looks at that time goes.
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Yeah, can't control it. Can't change it.
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It is what it is. Move on.
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Right. Isn't that what she said?
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A lot in her book. Just I moved on.
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And I love that because I think for all of us we've been in
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places where we were profoundly disappointed by something.
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And we moved on. We moved on from that.
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She's such a. You can see that she's just such
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to has been touched by God to move us in so many directions.
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And to show us ourselves, I really agree.
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I mean, I I so admire her for so many reasons as a woman as an
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actress or an actor, you know, as a, as a guide for living from
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what we can see living in, Anticipating being herself
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feeling. You know, she really seems, you
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know, all of the difficulties that she experienced Growing Up,
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made her so incredibly resilient that now it's almost like it's
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almost like she has a dual Mission.
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Yes. Her, you know, her dream was to
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act and she is doing that and not only is she incredible doing
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that but she's also helping people learn.
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What it's like or how to be how to show up in our most difficult
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moments. And that is what really just
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draws me in and I just I love it hiring.
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She's so inspiring to me. Absolutely.
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There's going to be a lot of people that are going to
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speculate on. Why should you know, the movie
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wasn't nominated for anything, it's just unbelievable.
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We can move on from that but if listeners, if you haven't seen
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the movie, You really should, you know, it's an amazing movie
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about women leaders. And there's nobody that comes no
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no. Male savior comes in and chased
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saves them from from being warriors, fighting their enemies
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and they do work with the male Warriors in the movie.
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But the focus is really on them. And it was so easy to love the
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characters in this movie. And for, you marketers out there
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who I know are listening, they did a wonderful pre-launch idea
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on Instagram and put out there like what character would you
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be? And they gave you a little quiz
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and at the end of it they told you what character you would be.
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And I know I was a menza. Do you remember, Sheila, who you
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were? No, I don't.
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Ya, a menza was her trusted friend, and she could always go
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and talk to, and she was intuitive.
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I'm sure you would be a menza to absolutely if I'm a men secure.
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That sounds about right? It was funny when I got a men's
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I thought to myself darn I wanted to be in charge, you
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know. I wanted to be head Warrior, you
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know? But Not to be I was I was you
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know, the trusted friend and but I loved the idea of aligning you
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to her character before the movie.
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I thought that was very clever. I also felt that it's the kind
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of movie that you need to kind of take a hanky to because
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there's so much emotion in it, you know, about love about
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encouragement about team on the love between a daughter.
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And a mother even though they were estranged from each other,
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right? Yeah, that really, that part
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really resonated, you know, Spoiler alert.
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I mean that the adoption angle in the movie where Lee resonate
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with me as an adoptee and I think that that would really
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appeal to the viewers, you know, women Mothers Daughters, you
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know, any So yeah, the movie, I watched it with my husband and
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my sister-in-law and the three of us were just captivated.
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We watched it at home and it just drew Us in and we loved it.
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Yeah, I saw it in the theater with like to other people I
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really like for a noon showing or something that was just three
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of us in there and you could hear all three of us just cook,
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you know? Just trying with our little
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crying at that points. I also got to say I was kind of
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holding my breath, the whole movie for it to for something
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bad to happen and I'm that way at that, look at that level of
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suspense. Yeah, you definitely achieve
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that like when every conflict every fight, every was like You
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know who's going to, who's not going to make it you know, I
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think we're so conditioned. To accept, you know, that the
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heroin doesn't survive. And I will put in there though,
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if you haven't seen the movie, I wanna skip this part of our pad
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Castor, so that's not totally spoiling everything.
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But, you know, I think that Biola knew how difficult.
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This movie was going to be for some people, you know, because
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it didn't follow the right formula.
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There was no white male or female to be the Savior and
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black women are seen in their Glory.
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I mean, the dancing, the costumes, the singing.
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I absolutely loved all of that. It was too fantastic.
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Even says some social media that showed women.
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In, in the restroom after having seen the movie and them chanting
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together. Let's cool.
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And singing, I mean, I get little Goosebumps about it.
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I think she felt in her heart. How difficult this was going to
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be for some people to accept While others of us just went and
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embraced it like oh my God, this was so good.
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I want more of this. And I think that she said
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something like this was one of her quotes.
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I don't To have a sword to be a warrior.
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I have the warrior spirit in me and I think you and I both have
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a little bit of that. Who would you say taught you
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about being a warrior? Oh, definitely my mother. 100% I
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think when you have a strong maternal mother figure, you
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know, doesn't have to be your mother but in my case it was and
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you know she's the one that really taught me about
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resilience you know I didn't know it at the time, you know.
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We don't know that as we grow up and we just think we just kind
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of go along with whatever our parents do.
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You know? We don't when we're young and
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and I can remember her being, you know, she was always the
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first mom to do. Do whatever it was.
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And, you know, the first one to get divorce.
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The first one to go back to school.
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The first one to go to law school, it's like the list, went
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on and on, and so I just didn't think anything of it.
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And so now, when we have conversations looking back, you
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know, she's like people, she said, people used to tell me all
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the time how resilient I was? And I didn't even think of it
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because I was busy doing, you know, studying or working Or
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raising the kids or whatever, knowing that resilience really
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speaks to my soul, and why I'm drawn to Viola.
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And even this movie, like, it all makes sense to me.
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How about you? Yeah, I had a matically.
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I thought my dad Fred. Chavez was the protector.
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The Marine who took the hill. He had endurance.
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Taught me a lot about that. He had integrity and in the face
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of a lot of he was dark-skinned. He's a dark-skinned Mexican and
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he faced a lot of bigotry about that when I was with him a
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couple times to see how he handled it and he definitely
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Rose above and May and you could just see the other person was
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made to be very small. For their comment or whatever,
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the action that they took. So he taught me a lot about
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being proud and being a warrior. But my mom taught me the
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survival part and how to endure obstacles.
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You know, my dad would get mad at the obstacles where my mom
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say Fred. We got to do, ba, da da, da, da.
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She knew that how she was a strategist and he was front
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line. So I would say both of them
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taught me about resilience, I think my mom will giving it
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more. Thought my dad definitely taught
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me about resilience but that came a little later, you know?
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So the resilience I think that as I was my dad, got a, you
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know, older and his life. That's really when I saw and
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witnessed his own resilience, and how he transformed his life
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and made a lot of positive changes.
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And after going through some difficult times, I was just
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reflecting on. I learned a lot about resilience
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from both parents. I'd say they were both Warriors
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but it's interesting because I really can see now that I'm
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thinking of it. My mom definitely was the
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warrior as for me growing up. You know, after my parents
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divorced, as I mentioned, she was the first one to go to get
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divorced in my neighborhood. The first one, she go back to
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school. The first first one to go to law
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school, the first one to get married, you know, to a younger
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man which was very, very rare back then it was before, you
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know, the term cougar came up and then later on, you know, as
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my dad got older and had some health issues, that's really
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when I and I got to know him in a whole new way and I really saw
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his resilience so so, it's really powerful when we can
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Benefit from having someone in our lives, either a parent or a
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role model or someone that we are close to.
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That's really how we learn to be resilient.
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I mean, obviously, we have to go through our own experiences, but
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if you can have a mean look to your role models, it could even
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be a business Mentor, you know, like know knowing about their,
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how they navigate. Through turbulent times, I think
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can teach you a lot about what to to do in your own life.
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I think as we look at her book, She talks about her mom.
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Met Ellis, I really like that met Alice not Mary met Ellis and
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I guess we should tell the listeners.
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I had a very tough time with this book.
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Sheila, and I started reading this book like what April or May
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when it came out. And after I finished it, I said
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to Sheila. I'm going to need some time.
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This book brought up a lot of my own trauma.
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I couldn't record right away, you know.
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And here the universe is laying it out for us, right?
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Like, okay, the book take your time, then, you know, the movie
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came and we said, oh, let's make sure we cover the movie and the
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episode. And then the Academy Awards, it
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was sort of like we were just being guided along and I
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definitely was grateful. All to have the space in the
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time to deal with some of the trauma and outlines in her book,
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running away from the boys at school, you know, in my case, I
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was called gordita, you know, which means pat pat.
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So and Spanish, her mom eventually came to her Aid and
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helped her, you know. And I know for me, my parents
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really tried to help me with my weight to feel better about
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myself, but, you know, she felt Dark.
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You know, she felt her skin was too dark her and I thought my
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skin was too dark because I was going to a private school and
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everybody. There had very, very light skin
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and I'm I'm a blend to me. I was really dark especially if
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itand. Oh my God it was beautiful.
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I was a teenager but I could just so identify with her.
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I wasn't we weren't as poor as she was but we were were often
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on the edge of being able to afford.
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Going to school or having a uniform or paying the tuition.
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Or, you know, my dad worked three jobs.
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My mom worked in retail, It you know there was physical
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altercations in the home the whole time I was growing up my
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dad drinking. I got just oh when she was going
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through her trauma I don't think I had dealt with it sometimes
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books. I think just tell you hey it's
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time time to take a look at this.
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Did you read the book or did you listen to it on audiobook I
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listened to her on audiobook. Why did too?
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And I really recommend that if it's because she's reading her
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own book and it is so powerful to hear her.
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I think she got an mp4 that for her reading but I could see the
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rats I could, you know, everything.
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She's talking about the shame of having of not smelling good.
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Good, having the hand-me-down clothes and I love what she's
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supposed and running the fear. Living in constant fear.
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Like her. Adrenaline, must have been going
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all the time because she literally would have to run home
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from school. So she didn't get chased and
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beaten up. Yeah.
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You imagine your nervous system if you were constantly in that
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state of fear? Yeah.
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Yeah. It was she makes the point to
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that when she was called to the principal's office and given the
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hand-me-down clothes from her principal's daughter that she
00:25:35
called, she said, in the face of compassion and empathy.
00:25:41
It's amazing how it kills shame. Which aisle I was like, oh, I
00:25:47
could remember shame feeling very shameful, you know, my
00:25:51
grandmother, we couldn't afford my uniform, so my grandmother
00:25:55
would make them and then the colors won't be right.
00:25:58
But you know or It was just, you know, it was, I felt shameful
00:26:10
and I think a lot of my eating at the time being a small child
00:26:14
was shame was about Shane comforting.
00:26:19
Yeah, one of the things that I thought was really good about
00:26:24
the Oprah interview, she talked about coming face-to-face with
00:26:29
the giant being her dad. And her fear.
00:26:34
And I she was 14 and I can remember being Oh my goodness, I
00:26:42
must have been about my mid 30s. Maybe maybe almost 40 must have
00:26:47
been about 40 and my dad was here at the house and he was
00:26:57
Saying something or doing something to my to my daughter
00:27:02
who was a toddler at the time. And I said, no. you know, it was
00:27:11
kind of like what Viola said that she got between her mother,
00:27:15
and father in an argument and just put the boundary down and
00:27:21
said, no, and I remember the first time I did that with my
00:27:25
dad to say no your you know your your house and the way you did
00:27:30
your house is not how I do mine relate to standing up to the
00:27:37
Giant in that moment and And the courage.
00:27:41
I think that's what you know she said Oprah quoted Maya about
00:27:47
courage saying courage is the most important of the virtues
00:27:51
because without it you cannot practice anything.
00:27:56
Mmm, so why is I guess, you know, when she talks about
00:27:59
forgiveness, you know, she definitely has healed and I can
00:28:05
relate I think that's for all of us to look at to that when we
00:28:09
get to that point. Forgiveness, that definitely is
00:28:12
a point where we've healed and we can all move on and
00:28:16
practicing that. I think she said something about
00:28:20
forgiveness is giving up hope that the past could have been
00:28:24
any different. I can't change.
00:28:27
What is so March forward. We watch too much TV and think
00:28:33
life will turn out that way and it doesn't really notice to
00:28:40
Except that the life God gave you and how much courage you
00:28:45
have to create the life that you actually want.
00:28:50
Hmm. Well, the points you were saying
00:28:52
before about authenticity for her are definitely things that
00:28:58
we know that what she's going to tell us whether it's in an
00:29:02
Instagram post or whatever that is actually her that she's being
00:29:06
very authentic in that. Well, it's really interesting
00:29:09
because In order to be authentic, you actually have to
00:29:15
go through. You have to be at a place where
00:29:19
you are where you've been able to be cracked open and and you
00:29:25
you know kind of lean into some of your challenges.
00:29:29
And so in a way it's like because the way that we're
00:29:34
conditioned is to kind of shove to suppress everything and not
00:29:38
really deal with our emotions and And the thing is, is that in
00:29:41
order to become more authentic, we have to allow ourselves to
00:29:46
let go of the shame and the fear in order to allow that cracking
00:29:53
open process to take place. And that's the light that comes
00:29:57
in is your authenticity. So, to me, it makes perfect
00:30:02
sense. You know, with all of the
00:30:04
struggles that she has shared, I do believe that that she is
00:30:09
really Spreading the light sharing her gifts of what she's
00:30:14
gone through. It has enabled her to help guide
00:30:18
other people and just because she's an actor or an actress.
00:30:22
Yes, she does. That professionally but as a
00:30:25
human, as a as a human, she seems to be very generous with
00:30:30
Sherry, you know, good information, sharing her
00:30:34
Integrity sharing things that are in alignment with her core
00:30:38
values. And I Think that's the other
00:30:41
piece. Is that pain?
00:30:42
We're not authentic where it's usually, because we're not in
00:30:46
touch with our core values. We're not living in alignment
00:30:50
with our core values, if you don't know who you are and where
00:30:55
you've come from, I think her book, she definitely anchored
00:30:59
herself in, who she was and where she come from, I think a
00:31:03
lot of us just keep like, you said, just keep going and we
00:31:06
don't reflect on that. And if we don't reflect on that,
00:31:09
who can Say we are so that work to know our little girl who was,
00:31:16
you know, at Villa Cabrini Academy feeling very fat in a
00:31:22
homemade uniform or everybody else had, there's store-bought,
00:31:26
you know, white boy, I don't love and pull her in and give
00:31:30
her a big hug and say it's okay, you're safe, it's going to be
00:31:34
all right, it works out it really does.
00:31:38
Don't you wish you know that That her little eight-year-old
00:31:42
self, you know, was getting hugged when there were the rats
00:31:48
eating the faces offer dolls, just, you know, it's okay.
00:31:55
You're going to be safe. You're going to make your way
00:31:58
through it. I think one thing you said, once
00:32:01
that I really appreciated was that she's redefining what
00:32:05
celebrity means. Yeah, I do believe that.
00:32:10
I really believe she's leading the way and she's because of her
00:32:15
courage and her strong sense of self.
00:32:20
And her authenticity is sort of attracting and helping people
00:32:25
come, come her way like He's in a lot of ways.
00:32:29
I look at her as kind of leading the charge, you know, she is a
00:32:33
strong strong woman and the more that people like her stand and
00:32:42
stand in their power and share their light, the and own their
00:32:49
light. The more people will feel in her
00:32:51
business in the business, you know, the more people will do
00:32:54
that because I think what's happened is that So many for
00:32:58
years, it was like people in the entertainment business were sort
00:33:02
of going along and but they weren't really using their voice
00:33:05
in the same way that they are today.
00:33:08
I mean, obviously there's been activism, you know, for a saving
00:33:12
the planet, you know, things that are important but it's not
00:33:16
exactly revealing your personal vulnerability and your shame.
00:33:20
Whereas now we're that's I think why she's so unique right now?
00:33:27
Because, you know, it's not just the fact that she's a woman.
00:33:32
But think about it, I mean, she's a black woman stepping
00:33:35
forward, and she's so well-respected and she's so
00:33:40
gifted. It's really changing things.
00:33:43
If people are it in a way, it doesn't even matter if she
00:33:47
wasn't nominated for this movie, because everybody knows that she
00:33:52
is incredibly gifted and that the the awards will come.
00:33:56
Yeah. She's living her.
00:33:57
Our purpose and her Mission and you know, we should all be so
00:34:03
fortunate to live our purpose and our mission and speak our
00:34:09
own truth. Absolutely.
00:34:11
Yeah. I think maybe we can almost end
00:34:14
this with Sheila. You'd sent me the LA Times
00:34:19
article and she was asked about being on top.
00:34:24
And she said it was a grind. Everyone wants to be on top,
00:34:32
it's a sacrifice. If anyone were to ask me what my
00:34:37
life was. I would say Genesis Julius.
00:34:42
My Mom, they're my heartbeat. I'm 57 that slaps you in the
00:34:49
face. You see what's important, you
00:34:54
know. All the things I thought were
00:34:56
maybe overrated I now think are underrated like doing nothing.
00:35:02
Doing nothing is very underrated.
00:35:05
It's like Brené Brown says, when you're overwhelmed doing nothing
00:35:11
is the only cure. So, Sheila before we and why
00:35:16
don't you just tell folks about what you're doing and how they
00:35:20
can reach you sure happy to. I'm Sheila, I'm an intuitive
00:35:26
life coach and master healer on a mission to guide, ambitious
00:35:30
and spiritually minded people to release their energetic blocks,
00:35:34
so they can achieve a more fulfilling authentic.
00:35:37
So loud life, my superpowers include empowering my clients to
00:35:42
transform their lives by Strengthening their intuitive
00:35:45
skills, manifesting goals and becoming more resilient.
00:35:50
Yeah, just like Viola, you're pretty resilient and you help us
00:35:55
all be more resilient. So thank you for that Sheila.
00:35:59
And what's the best way for people to contact you?
00:36:02
You can find me on Instagram, my handle is at Sheila White scorn
00:36:08
and we'll have that in the show notes, everybody, so that you
00:36:11
can reach out to her and being Okay, everybody.
00:36:16
Thanks for listening today and we'll talk to you soon.
00:36:20
Okay, just one more thing. As I was reflecting on the
00:36:25
episode, I didn't think I did a very good job of recapping.
00:36:31
Violas acceptance speech from the Academy Awards in 2017.
00:36:36
So here you go, here's the real thing.
00:36:56
Thank you to the academy. You know, there's one place that
00:37:01
all the people with the greatest potential are gathered one place
00:37:06
and that's the graveyard. People ask me all the time.
00:37:14
What kind of stories do you want to tell Viola?
00:37:19
And I say exhumed all those bodies exhumed those stories.
00:37:24
The stories of the people who dreamed big and never saw those
00:37:30
dreams to fruition. People who fell in love and
00:37:34
lost. I became an artist and thank God
00:37:39
I did, because we are the only profession that celebrates what
00:37:43
it means to live a life. So here's to August Wilson who
00:37:57
exhumed and exalted. The Ordinary People.
00:38:08
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00:38:11
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00:38:33
show notes, I'll have a link to the resources, mentioned, in
00:38:36
this episode. And next With Valentine's Day
00:38:40
around the corner, I plan to do an episode about love and
00:38:44
kindness and their relationship to leadership.
00:38:48
And I'll call on the Masters that we all love like Brené
00:38:51
Brown, who has said, quote, first and foremost, we need to
00:38:57
be the adults. We want our children to be.
00:39:00
We should watch our own gossiping and anger.
00:39:04
We should model the kindness. We want to see.
00:39:09
And then she also said about self-kindness quote.
00:39:14
So of kindness, being warm and understanding toward ourselves.
00:39:20
When we suffer fall or feel inadequate.
00:39:25
I'll also look at Jay Shetty who launched a new book eight rules
00:39:30
of love, how to find it, keep it and let it go.
00:39:34
So I'll dig through and pull the nuggets for us that Hopefully,
00:39:40
you'll find useful. Thanks for being here and talk
00:39:43
to you soon. Bye.
00:39:39
Hopefully, you'll find useful. Thanks for being here and talk
00:39:43
to you soon. Bye.