In this episode, Andrea “Baba” Canny furthers our discussion about ageism (from Ep 88) and provides some great interviewing tips. We also get into pay gaps, career expectations, talents, gifts and dreams.
Andrea is in her mid-50s and since the pandemic finding steady work has been a challenge. She’s shown great resilience and looks for the gifts present with the challenges. Her story is inspirational for all of us and is a great example of a “Girl, Taking the Lead!”
3 Episode Takeaways:
1. Ageism is going to happen to everyone – best to be aware and accepting early in your career.
2. Listen for the interview vibes you’re picking up and be sure to share examples of your “trainable chimp” moments.
3. Change is inevitable – don’t attach your job to your identity so you can build your own resiliency and see dreams you want to pursue.
As Mentioned in the Episode:
Ep 88 with Nori Jabba
Nori’s book, Keeping Your Seat at the Table
Andrea’s Workshop:
Princess to Gargoyle: Embracing Change & Creating Longevity in your Career
http://www.andreacanny.com/workshopsmaster-classes
Previous Episodes with Andrea:
Ep 1 “Wait, I Can Sound Wimpy?”
Ep 2 “Is Leadership Funny”
Ep 3 Betty White: More than Just Funny
More about Andrea:
Andrea Canny’s 38-year career has spanned through Asia, Europe, and the USA. Her Disney career began at Disney’s MGM Studios as the original Belle (Beauty and the Beast), original Laverne (The Hunchback of Notre Dame), Adventurers Club, and more. Andrea was voted Vocalist of the Decade on Broadwayworld.com in 2020. She also won Critic’s Pick: Best Actress in a Musical 2018 for her portrayal of Mama Rose in Gypsy at the Garden Theatre. She also has a solo CD, Cab Fab, and she recorded the role of Sleeping Beauty for the 10th Anniversary recording of Disenchanted that was released worldwide in September 2019. Ms. Canny co-produced the Emmy Award-nominated & Golden Brick Award-winning concert, From Broadway with Love: Orlando, benefiting 3 Orlando LGBTQ organizations after the Pulse tragedy, featuring Broadway stars, as well as From Broadway with Love: Parkland. Andrea has her own Proofreading/Editing business (books, scripts, etc.) and her coaching studio for corporate speakers and private & group coaching in vocal performance & the business of entertainment for performers.
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Welcome to episode 89 of Girl Take the Lead, where each week
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we explore womanhood and leadership.
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And I'm your host, Yo Canny. Today, Andrea Canny, AKA Bubba,
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my beloved sisterinlaw returns. I know a couple of you listeners
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out there have told me you wish you had her as a sisterinlaw,
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but too bad she's taken. In this episode, Bubba furthers
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our discussion about ageism and provides some great interviewing
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tips. We also get into discussing pay
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gaps, career expectations, talents, gifts, and dreams.
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A bit about Andrea if you haven't caught her.
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On our earlier episodes, she has traveled the world entertaining
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audiences in Europe, the United States and Asia on stage and on
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TV for the past 38 years as a singer, dancer, host, MC Improv,
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sketch comedian, creative director and producer.
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In 1991, she finished a European Tour and moved to Orlando to
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open Beauty and the Beast live on stage, originating the part
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of Belle at Disney's MGM Studios.
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She has performed with musical theater and TV legends such as
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Jerry Orbach, Robbie Benson, Betty White, as well as on The
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Oprah Show with Céline Dion and Peabo Bryson, a Cincinnati
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native. She recently moved from Orlando
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back to her hometown with Gus Gus, AKA the Mayor of Plant
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Street or the Baron of Blue Rock.
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We hope you'll enjoy the listen and find it fun as well as
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inspiring. Here you go.
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Welcome back to go take the lead.
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We are so glad you're here. I know we we've talked a lot
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about this topic of ageism and I just thought you'd have some
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terrific thoughts for our listeners about that.
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Yeah, it's. I think one of the biggest
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things that I wish with the the subject of ageism is.
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How can we teach younger people to understand that this is going
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to happen to them too? Because if I look back at my
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younger self, you just don't even think about that stuff
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because you're just working. You just keep working.
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You don't sit there, sit back and analyze why you're getting a
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job. You just got the job.
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You do the job, you usually usually, you know, complain
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about stupid stuff that you shouldn't be complaining about.
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And because you're. You know, not being grateful in
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that moment. And then life just keeps going.
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And then eventually you realize, oh, I'm now that invisible woman
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in my 50s. I'm making assumptions as to why
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I've been out of consistent work for almost three years.
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My assumptions are I'm overqualified because I've been
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in interviews, you know some of the one of the.
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Very few interviews I've even gotten is I was told, you know,
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well, I, I, I do. Do you realize that this job or
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it was actually for two jobs? Do you realize that these jobs
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do not require 30 plus years of experience?
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And I said, sure, you know, of course, yes.
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I I I can't imagine that it would require that, but sure
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couldn't hurt, could it? And she didn't really know how
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to respond, you know. And because I was thinking,
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like, why on earth would you think that would be a detriment?
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Like why wouldn't that be a positive?
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Like, oh, we can get so much more positive work done, you
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know, because it was in the arts and fundraising for the arts and
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everything. So I'm like, think of how much I
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come to the table with experience wise and creative
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ideation wise, that I could help you with so many things.
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But, and then she said, You know.
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Also the salary pay range is not commensurate to 30 plus years of
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experience. And I said said you know when I
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applied for the jobs I accepted that pay range that you had
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stated in the posting and I said you don't have the benefit of
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already knowing me. So let me clue you into who I am
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as a person. I said I'm not that person who
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will say, Oh, my salary is is 70% of what I'm worth.
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So I'm going to give you 70% of my abilities and effort as like
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if I say yes to the job, you've got me and you're going to get
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120% most of the time, you know, if not more, because I can't
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help myself. It's just how I roll.
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But it's it's baffling to me that people will look at your
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amount of experience and not value it because it's too much.
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So that makes my brain go to okay.
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Are they threatened? I mean this was a the VP of
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Marketing for this organization. I mean and she was wonderful.
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We had a great conversation for about an hour and she was
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basically interviewing me for two jobs that were, you know,
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one that she would be the direct report and another one that her
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colleague would. So she knew enough about it to
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interview me for both. And we were having a great
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conversation. And when I got to that, I just
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thought, wow, like is this possible that you think that?
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I would feasibly come in there, do such a good job, and then
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take your job because that's not.
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I don't want to be the VP of marketing because I don't know
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enough about marketing to do that.
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That's like that's not the job I'm interviewing for.
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So I don't know if that's the answer.
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There's so many questions, like why is it?
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Why do people Why do women become invisible when they hit
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their 50s and? Why are decades of experience
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not validated? Why is it a detriment other than
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people might think that, oh, they want to come in and boss me
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around? I'm like, well, you know, that's
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when you, in the interview try to get the vibe on the person's
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energy and their personality and their character traits.
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You know that that's more of a personality thing than it is
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what's on your resume is what you've done and what your
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experience is. Yeah, one of the things that
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Nori Java brought up in her book and in the episode that we did
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on ageism, she she said that her research determined that
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sometimes hiring managers look at the older applicant and
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think, oh, they're going to be hard to get along with because
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they're not very flexible. They're they can't learn
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anything anymore. They get stuck and I can't
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imagine anybody saying that about you.
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I get. I get that.
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I mean, I when I listen to that, I was like, yeah, I understand
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because I do have friends who didn't have the benefit of
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having a father where, you know, we were the first family to have
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a computer in our house in the 70s because of Dad's line of
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work, you know, and he created a program to test me on genus and
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phylum and. All the all these different
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things for biology. So I've been on a computer since
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I was in junior high, you know, and I'm 57 now, so it's some
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people do not have that benefit. So I understand that some people
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might be hesitant to learn. But one of the things I did
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mention because I thought that was a very valuable thing that
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she said is that that I think it's very important in an
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interview to tell people, hey, I'm anxious to learn.
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I really. Enjoyed that part of of your
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interview with her, but when I recently had an hour long
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conversation with an old friend of mine who is could be if I get
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this job I just applied for could be my direct report boss.
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And one of the things, you know, there are two things on there
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that he mentioned, you know, after we talked for almost an
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hour and he said, well, the two things that I didn't hear you
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tell me about your experience wise is budgets and contracts.
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And I told him absolutely. I'll be the first person to tell
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you that was never my department.
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But let me tell you the things that I my experience I have had
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with contracts and and budgets. And so I gave him examples.
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But I also told him, I said this is another thing I said, I
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always call myself a trainable chimp because I'm willing to
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learn. And I said the best way for me
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to explain how committed I am to learning new things is that.
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The whole left side of my brain is just Christmas ornament
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storage. Like, I did not get the brain
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that my brothers got for computers or, you know, for for
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math or anything. So math to me just like gives me
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hives, right? So when I was temping in New
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York, I had this really good job, a good temp job at this
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agency or at this mergers and acquisitions company.
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It was like the largest one in New York and it was a good job.
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It was steady and they wanted me full time.
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And so I felt like I needed to do whatever I needed to do.
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So I had to learn Lotus. Like what?
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Like, no, I mean that I was like, what?
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You want me to what? But I did it.
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I hated every minute of it. But I did it.
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And I was. I was proud of myself because it
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was a challenge. But I did feel like I needed to
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let him know as a perspective, you know?
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Yeah, that I am willing to learn new things and that I'm not
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stuck in my way. So I I really liked that she had
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said that, yeah. But one of the things in the
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episode we did about Machiavelli, being able to
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present yourself in a way that demonstrates your power and your
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ability to overcome the obstacle is actually your superpower.
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I I think it would be so powerful for hiring managers and
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people managing others begin to see that the more obstacles that
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you've had in life. You know, in that episode, I
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think I talked about being asked once in an interview what
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competitive sports I played, right?
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And it puts me at a clear disadvantage.
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I was in an era where we didn't have AYSO soccer.
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You're like just marriage and. But wouldn't it have been great
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if I were asked, you know, tell me about some obstacles and
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things that you overcame? Yeah, yeah.
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Show your resiliency. Yeah, what you're bringing.
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I I agree 100% and I I think one of the things that I.
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Can credit my willingness to change on a dime when necessary.
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Is my 38 year career in theater and especially the improvisation
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part of it learning how to recognize something right away?
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You know, I always talk about when I worked at the Adventures
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club, I'm like you got to learn how to walk past the crazy.
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You just got to walk past it and you got to seek out the people
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who are willing to play. And and then you have to riff on
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it and things will change at any given moment.
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So a scene, you may think a scene is supposed to go this
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way, but when somebody reacts to it, it may take it down another
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alley, you know, when you have to be willing to go down that
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alley with them. So I think people who have, you
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know, the same thing happens in sports too, you know, I think
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that's, you know, somebody's more sports centric that that
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would be the analogy that they would give.
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But I think theater definitely, because definitely gives you a
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benefit, an upper hand, as it were, because you have to know
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how to adjust and you listen when you do improv.
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And theater, that's the biggest aspect of being an actor is you
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have to listen. It's less about what you say and
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more about how you listen. So what did you think of her
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thoughts about money and anxiety?
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Oh my God, that and panic that that brings up.
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It's true. And it kind of put me in a
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little bit of panic. I was like, wait, what?
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Wait, like there's a deadline for your retirement, You know,
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for like Social Security. I was like, oh, and and those
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are put that in the math category for me.
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That is an easy way for me to shut my brain down because I
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don't understand that stuff, you know?
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So it did. It kind of gave me a little
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object of there, but I go check this out.
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I not only have to worry about the fact that I don't have a job
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or a savings, but now I have to worry about a deadline that I'm
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going to miss. I'm not going to sleep tonight.
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I ain't too worried. Well, you know.
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Yeah. And it I've also read, after I
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read her book, I read Machiavelli for Women by Stacey
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Vanek Smith. And she also brings up things
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about money in there, you know, because there's such a pay gap.
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Did you experience that in performing like, did women get
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paid differently than men got paid?
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And you had the gap there too. Yeah.
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And actually there's an example that just recently happened at
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Disney because you would negotiate like say when I first
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opened Beating the Beast, I think my.
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Pay hourly pay was $12.50 I think, and we found out that the
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Gastons were getting paid more than we were and we were all
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opening the same show. And technically we were on stage
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11 minutes 14 seconds every show and the Gastons were only on
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stage 9 minutes and something every show, so you know it did.
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The disparity is always there, and recently at one of the
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Disney shows that I used to work at, they got together.
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The cast got together, males and females, and they all decided to
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disclose with each other how much great, It's great and it's
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bad at the same time. Well, it's good in one respect,
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but then in the other they kind of the people who had longevity
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there, had more, more years, kind of screwed themselves
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because it was great for solidarity, you know, because
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they demanded that, you know, that the women get the same
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rate. As the males get, but then they
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took away. So everybody now is getting the
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same rate, which is fine. But the people who have worked
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there who've got seniority lost their edge, their seniority
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edge. Because I truly believe, like if
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I have to do that show that many times a day for how many days a
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week and, you know, almost lose my mind because of it, you know
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you you deserve to get paid. They're doing the same thing
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over and over and over and over again.
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It's still making people happy. It's when you're doing something
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for that long, you deserve to get paid more, you know, because
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you bring more to the table, You more experienced, You know, I
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snooped around to try and find out what people were making when
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it got to a point where I'm like like why is that person getting
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paid more than me? I think they are, but I don't
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know for sure impolite to ask somebody, oh, what are you
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making? That's why I think that this
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idea of transparency group on Glassdoor, I think you can find
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out more about the range and more surveys are being done to
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make sure that people are are paid appropriately.
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I think that's so much better than it being a secret.
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Oh, absolutely. And I've just never understood
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the philosophy behind. A woman doing the exact same job
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as a man is and getting paid less just because of her gender.
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That does not make any sense to me whatsoever with you on that
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one too. It just seems more.
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Intuitive The things that Nori brought up was that ageism shows
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up at different times in different industries.
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Very much so. But it seems in your industry
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you've been able to kind of reinvent yourself, you know,
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having been having played Bell, you didn't have the expectation
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that you would be Bell forever, right?
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Thank God you're flexible, you're you're willing to try
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different things, but I wondered in if you've seen it with your
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colleagues and other people like how you reinvent yourself and
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make yourself more flexible. Definitely.
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I have a workshop that I started and I actually want to write a
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book about it that it's I. It's called the workshops called
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From Princess to Gargoyle. Embracing Change and Creating
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longevity in your career Because literally in a 10 minute
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contract talk, I went from playing a Princess.
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To playing a centuries old gargoyle.
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And the way I reacted to that, I believe one I consider that to
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be the best gift Disney ever gave me.
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Hands down. The best gift.
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But the way I reacted to it helped me.
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You know, I I embraced the change.
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And then being able to embrace that and move along with it
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helped me create longevity in my career.
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Because basically Disney paid me to learn how to be a character
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actor. Because if if you were, I don't
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want to say smart, but if you if you accept the way the world is,
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the way it is, you've got to. It would be you would be wise,
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let's say that, to accept that you can't be an ingenue forever.
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You may be a dancer your whole life.
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You're not always going to be the same dancer.
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You're going to go through different phases and things will
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change. I'm not saying you can't be
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flexible for the rest of your life, because you can, But
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things will change. And when you're talking about
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marketability in the entertainment business, you may
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not be marketable the majority of your life.
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Sometimes it's a finite amount of time and your your on to New
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Years are definitively A finite amount of time.
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Because I didn't. Attach that job to my identity.
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I think that's what kept me safe and kept me in reality was by
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the time I had that contract talk, I've been, I've been doing
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that role for 4 1/2 years. I was ready for a change.
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That's why I like TV and film. You know, I love theater, but I
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love TV and film because it changes all the time.
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You're you're still always working on your craft, but you
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get things change. So it's interesting and
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exciting. You know, titles.
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It's like, you know, thinking that a title a title gives you
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power. Yeah.
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Which to me that just immediately wreaks of insecurity
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and you know, I'll be the first one to stay in line.
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Like, yeah, I have insecurities. Everybody's got insecurities
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but. Sometimes you just have to
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pretend like you don't and you know, except that change is
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inevitable. Sometimes it's painful too.
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But. I think it's sometimes, you
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know, there's a couple things that come to mind for me too.
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I remember being told, you know, leave your ego at the door, you
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know, that enabled me a lot to take a demotion and work at a
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level which hadn't been, you know, the peak of my career.
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Some some careers seem to be Okay.
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Well all you do is keep going up and up and up and up and up
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right and get more and more responsibility and power.
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Yeah, my my career looks like. Oh, there's a little zigzag, you
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know, it goes down, it comes. Back up, you know there's a flat
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line you. Know it's creative looking,
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that's for sure. But I know, I know you mean it.
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If you have the expectation that it's just going to go up and up
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and up and up, you know you you really can't recover from when
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the downs come. I also think too that you have
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the ability that you love performing.
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Listeners, I'm telling you, this woman, when she sang the Ave.
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Maria at my wedding, I will never forget it.
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I mean, I was in the back room with my dad and I heard this
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voice I couldn't believe. And I got to stop what I was
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doing and just enjoy the moment with that, I mean, but I think
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you were. It wasn't about you.
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It was about the talent, about being and giving what your gifts
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are. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm glad you
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said that, because for me, I'm a I'm a highly sensitive person
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and I'm an. Extrovert in that I derive my
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energy from other people, but when I'm by myself, I'm pretty
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insular, you know, Like I should never spend too much time alone,
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basically. But when I was a kid, I always I
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was referred to myself as painfully shy because, I mean, I
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literally just would not talk, you know, from the moment I went
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to bed until I had to 1st speak at school.
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And I remember kids making fun of me.
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In elementary school, when it was in math class of all things,
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and I hadn't spoken since the night before, and they the
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teacher asked me to answer a question.
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But yes, the kids made fun of me because my voice cracked when I
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first opened my mouth to speak again.
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So I realize now now that I know that I'm a highly sensitive
00:22:37
person, that I was feeling and I'm also an empath.
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I was feeling everything from everyone, everywhere.
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And I didn't know how to process it because there was nobody
00:22:47
there to tell me that that I was a highly sensitive that was just
00:22:52
not in in the vernacular back then, you know, it was just
00:22:55
like, oh, she's shy. When I found out that I could
00:22:59
sing because I, I, I was a sophomore in high school or
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whatever, I didn't. I didn't know what my future was
00:23:07
going to be because I was not. Other than being good at
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English, I had no dream of being anything really.
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And when I found out that I could sing and I had my magical
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moment. I have never felt so connected
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to something in the universe than in that magical moment when
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I had my eyes closed. Rich Williams on the piano and
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me singing The first time ever I Saw Your Face by Roberta Flack.
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That was the moment. And I started feeling so
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connected to something other than me, something bigger than
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me, when I would perform. And it became, you know,
00:23:46
certainly there's nerves involved and, you know, because
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you don't want to mess up and everything like that.
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But overall for me, performing is the safest place on earth for
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me. As long as I do my rehearse, as
00:24:00
long as I'm well rehearsed, I know my stuff.
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I'm I'm a okay getting in front of a whole stadium of people as
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opposed to like, don't ask me to sing around the piano with like
00:24:11
two people there. You know, that's more nerve
00:24:14
wracking for me. But like, like the one time I
00:24:18
sang the national anthem for Orlando City Soccer, I was
00:24:21
honored to do it. And I I wasn't scared of the
00:24:23
people. I was scared of messing up our
00:24:26
national anthem line. Well, there's.
00:24:30
Plenty of people that just. Because my British cousins
00:24:35
overseas were watching it while it was happening and so like.
00:24:39
I was like, oh, please don't make me be like Robert Goulet
00:24:42
and mess up my national anthem like I was sure it was great.
00:24:48
Is there anything else that you can think of to pass along
00:24:51
anymore moments of wisdom about? This, no, this is wisdom.
00:24:56
But this is my dilemma. Part of this is a complaining.
00:25:03
A whining is and then. Well, then I have to turn around
00:25:07
it and say, oh, that's actually a gift.
00:25:09
So the first instinct is to whine wow, wow, wow.
00:25:13
About, you know, because we become invisible and we're
00:25:17
overqualified and all these things, We can't find the work.
00:25:19
Then we have to create something ourselves, which is like, well,
00:25:24
why do I have to do that? Like, why do I have to do all
00:25:26
the work? I, you know, And then I have
00:25:30
decided to turn that around into it's a gift that we are able to.
00:25:36
Create from scratch what it is we want to do in this world, you
00:25:40
know and how we want to show up and how.
00:25:43
It's not easy and I I will still complain in my head about how I
00:25:50
don't want to have to do it. But I'm training myself to look
00:25:55
at it as a gift and and also an opportunity to think, you know,
00:26:01
I was raised to not think too highly of my, you know, don't
00:26:03
think too highly of yourself. And that's really gotten in the
00:26:06
way of me. I don't have a fear of failure,
00:26:08
per se. I have a massive fear of
00:26:11
success. And so I'm trying to retrain my
00:26:15
brain to look at this as a gift of like, oh, there's so much
00:26:20
more I can do. Like I have an idea for I want
00:26:22
to be able to eventually buy this house, this land, and I
00:26:27
want to turn it into a sustainability place with
00:26:29
education. Bring people who live in food
00:26:32
deserts and bring the kids in. Teach them how to you know what
00:26:36
they're going to be planting. OK, this is what we're going to
00:26:38
cook today, all these different things.
00:26:40
We're going to have fun, we're going to play games, we're going
00:26:42
to learn about sustainability. We're going to learn about
00:26:44
planting and everything and go through the whole year doing it.
00:26:48
And at harvest time, bring their whole families in, Have a big
00:26:51
BBQ, play games. Everybody go for harvest and
00:26:55
then they leave with a bunch of produce, you know, and and also
00:26:59
with an education, you know there's parts of my brain that
00:27:03
don't think you're not capable of that you're not capable All
00:27:06
those little nasty little voices in your head.
00:27:09
And I was like I'm just going to keep putting 1 foot in front of
00:27:12
the other. I'm going to keep saying it in
00:27:14
front of people. And I've actually had two
00:27:16
friends recently that I've shared that idea with.
00:27:18
One's a very successful real estate person in Georgia.
00:27:22
And the other one has, she owns quite a few properties and she's
00:27:25
got a real estate license. It's not what she does for a
00:27:29
living, but she's very knowledgeable about it.
00:27:32
And they both just gave me very great ideas about how to make
00:27:35
that actually a reality. So I've decided I'm going to
00:27:40
quiet the whining that I have to work, flip it, turn it into a
00:27:45
gift and then share the information.
00:27:47
So. It's going to attract the people
00:27:49
who can help me with it. Well, what I just so impressed
00:27:53
with and inspired by is how you're trying just different
00:27:56
things. It's not just one lane.
00:28:00
You're looking at a lot of different ways of expressing
00:28:04
yourself. So great.
00:28:06
I just, I mean because this, you know, being back home, it was a
00:28:10
very difficult decision for me to make.
00:28:11
But I mean, it definitely came out of necessity because I was
00:28:15
there was no work happening for me in Orlando.
00:28:18
And but I've just enjoyed the little things, like, you know,
00:28:21
Dad's magical asparagus coming up, you know, being able to eat
00:28:24
that, And the deer, the fox, the coyote, the rabbits, the baby
00:28:29
Robins that I got to watch grow. All these magical things that
00:28:33
are happening in the raccoons are now starting to come out in
00:28:36
the daytime because they're like, lady, you haven't filled
00:28:39
the compost recently. Get on it.
00:28:42
Get on it. Plus we need water to go along
00:28:45
with that. If you could put a little water
00:28:47
out for us that. Would be exactly, yeah.
00:28:50
And a couple of grapes. I wouldn't say no to it.
00:28:52
So I've really enjoyed that and it's it's got me more more
00:28:56
invested in. I just think it would be a very
00:28:59
big shame if this land went to a developer in my brain.
00:29:04
I'm planning for some sort of organization that I can liaise
00:29:10
partner with. That, you know, would be people
00:29:12
who are urban farmers or who know more about this stuff.
00:29:15
You know, we do so much to help all of us.
00:29:17
I Bubba was the one that kind of helped me, held my hand for the
00:29:22
first three or four episodes just so I could get going on
00:29:25
podcasting and just so grateful to you so.
00:29:29
Thank you for that. You and you're kicking butt.
00:29:31
I love your podcast. I love it.
00:29:34
I just love it. Love it.
00:29:35
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