All kinds of friends join Yo to discuss holiday traditions and rituals. These are the questions we explored:
What are holidays about?
What is the difference between a tradition and ritual?
What are memories we have of our own traditions and rituals?
How might becoming an observer of these help us with emotions that might come up?
Link to book, We Are What We Celebrate.
Links to Yo’s podcast friends on Apple Podcast:
Melissa Brunetti: “Mind Your Own Karma, The Adoption Chronicles”
Rachael Blair: “Raising Vibrant Kinds”
Whitney Baker: “Electric Ideas”
Mesha McKittrick: “Mindset Check”
Link to the book Mesha mentioned: The Christmas Box
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Welcome to episode 49. A girl take the lead for each
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week. We explore Womanhood in
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leadership, so it's the holidays and a time for Gatherings gifts
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and celebration of lots of traditions.
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And rituals I found myself with a question and where do these
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traditions and rituals come from.
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So I did a little research and found this book, we are what we
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celebrate and it's edited by a mati at Sony and Jared Bloom
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this book. Brings together classic and
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original essays written mostly by professors in sociology,
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history and speech, communication and covers a
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variety of holidays. So I pulled a few different
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threads. I thought you might find of
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Interest as we go on to celebrate our holidays for the
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next few weeks. There's also a discussion With
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my podcast friends who help us better understand the
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differences between traditions and rituals, and they also
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encourage us to question them. If they don't work for us, these
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friends have terrific podcast. You might want to check out like
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Melissa's mind your own Karma, the adoption Chronicles Rachel's
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raising vibrant. Kids Whitney's electric ideas
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and Misha's mindset check details about how to find them
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are in the show notes. And lastly, I'll share a memory
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from Cindy, Emma, theriot, who I'd like to thank for listening?
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I know, I have a few new listeners.
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I wanted to give a shout out to Sarah at labelled, Salon in Palo
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Alto. Thank you Sarah for listening to
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our podcast and the new haircut you gave me.
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I totally love it. And feel sassy and much.
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Lighter. A good look to welcome 2023.
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Anyone in the local Bay Area in need of a new look, please go
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see. See, Sarah, I'll put her contact
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info in the show notes to I hope you'll enjoy this holiday.
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Listen, here you go, where I'd like to start in this book.
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Many of the essays talk about how holidays have become
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child-centered and to make the point.
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I'm going to just read a paragraph from chapter 3 by Gary
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cross and it's called just for kids and what he's talking
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about. Our holidays, not just the
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December ones, but also the Halloween and birthdays and how
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we are very much Reinventing childhood innocence with each of
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these holidays. So let me read it.
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The anticipation of Christmas morning, the excitement of
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Dashing down the dark and cool Street.
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Trick-or-treating being the birthday, girls seated at the
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table surrounded by By Family mounds of presence and the
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candle lit cake or sharing an afternoon with the seldom seen
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father at Disney's Magic Kingdom.
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These are all fond memories shared by many modern American
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children. They are also rituals invented
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by adults to evoke in their offspring.
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The Wonder of childhood innocence very often expressed
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through gift-giving. Without too much exaggeration,
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we could say that holidays and pilgrimages manifestations of
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deep communal needs were changed into celebrations of wondrous
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innocence. In the last 150 years, this
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transformation coincided with both new attitudes towards The
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Young and the rise of consumerism Christmas and
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Halloween, became the quintessential festivals of
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Wanderers innocence. All vacations and tourist sites
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were transformed into children's times and places.
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So that points about Reinventing, a wondrous
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innocence kind of sets us up for not meeting the mark in a lot of
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ways. Like in my childhood, I remember
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my oh, my one evening, one Christmas.
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We had all the presents had been stolen out of my father's trunk.
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And he was able to get Toys for Tots to help us because he was a
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marine at the time. And so when I was and our ritual
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was that, we always celebrated Christmas on Christmas Eve at
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about 11 p.m. when my parents were no longer working, they
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make, wake my sister, and I up out of a deep sleep, and we'd go
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and open her presents. And so, we were already kind of
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sleepy, but we'd see the Christmas tree covered with
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toys. And in this case it just went on
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and on because my dad basically got all the leftover Toys for
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Tots. I'm from the Marines, and That
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moment that innocence I remember feeling that and I wanted that
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for my kids. So I try and try and try and
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reinvent that, and I wonder what you try and reinvent for your
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family. You know, some of that is it's
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they're just wonderful Traditions, but if you're, if
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you're feeling kind of like you're coming up short or not
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feeling particularly good about things, you know, I think we can
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Kind of say, you know that we're trying to reinvent, maybe
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something that isn't really realistic because they were
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feelings for us. I also in this book was
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intrigued by the differences between tradition and ritual.
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I'll offer this definition that I found online said, rituals
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differ from traditions in that rituals involve a series of
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actions that are repeated A tradition is similar in that
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beliefs or behaviors are passed down with cultural significance,
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tied to the Past. However, they do not need to be
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performed in a prescribed order, both Drew rituals and
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traditions, have an important place in families and Society,
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they are an important part of identity.
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Celebrate the unique cultural heritage's within families and
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build community. So I put The question to my
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podcast friends, like, what do they see about this?
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And here's what they had to say. You'll first here, Melissa and
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then Whitney and then Rachel and Misha also gives us a nice
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memory from her own childhood that she shares with her family.
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So, here we go. Definition of tradition can be
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limiting to some people wear. If they don't share something in
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the family or you can feel really left out and not belong
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and I don't know. Melissa.
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Do you have thoughts on that? I kind of have a hard time
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differentiating between those two you know ritual or
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tradition. I don't know I kind of feel like
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it's for me it's more gosh I don't know it's tradition, I
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think. More than ritual.
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Because for what we do every year, which it's kind of gotten
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messed up with covid. But my mom used to host cookie a
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sugar cookie decorating. So we'd all bring cookies that
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were already cut out and we'd have, you know, a thousand
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sprinkles and and different colored icing and all the
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grandkids and great grandkids would come over and we would you
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know, decorate hundreds of sugar cookies that we would eat on
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Christmas. You know, everybody would come
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together for that. So that's everybody looks
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forward to that and when it kind of stopped with covid, my nieces
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were just like heartbroken, you know, and my mom really hasn't
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picked it up yet, but you know, they're older and kind of
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nervous about hosting, you know, all these little kids coming
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over and stuff. So, but ours Traditions are a
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lot of round baking and things like that, my grandma.
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I remember her making, you know, Ginger creams.
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And fudge and Russian tea cakes. And, you know, all those things,
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I just remember my entire life, eating those things at Christmas
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time. So it's mostly like baking stuff
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for us. And then the other thing that I
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do with my daughter, we kind of have time just the two of us on
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Christmas morning. And we open our gifts to each
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other and have coffee and cookies.
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Just have our own, you know, time in the morning.
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And I know she really, really enjoys that so That's kind of
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what we do. I feel like if you take it
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outside, the context of the holidays, I, you know, like
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tradition seems like something like every year we do this.
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It's like if you think about like our tradition for
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Thanksgiving, there, something is like always going to
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Grandma's so nose, and when you say the word ritual, it
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definitely reminds me of something that's like repeated
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so that I get what you're saying.
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I just don't know, outside, like this here.
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Retrieval religion, realm, and maybe Rachel would have a better
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answer to this. Like how many people have stuff
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that they like do repeatedly throughout the season, you know?
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Yeah. Don't you feel like get it?
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Kind of talks about families. It's like you're passing down a
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tradition within your family, so like, from one generation to the
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next. I mean, it could be within one
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family, but I feel like tradition normally kind of
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insinuates that it's something within a family.
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Then ritual is often more used more in like a spiritual context
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of doing something tradition is some, you passed down.
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And, you know, ritual is something, maybe that's not
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linked to family, anything else that you do, that's not linked
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to something that was passed down.
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But you do, you know what I mean?
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I don't know. I sway Melissa because you were
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saying having breakfast with your daughter is Something that
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you do together. Yeah.
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So that's not really a tradition and I guess I think that's a
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good the ritual. Yeah, it's a good example.
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Yo, one other thing I've thought about a lot and talked on a lot
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of boundary work, I feel like some traditions can feel like
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shoulds and oppressive when they're really actually like a
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drain on Mom's and often times. I feel like sometimes we don't
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give ourselves permission to To say this, I don't like this.
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Like I can be empowered and like and so I think that there is an
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empowering message in like maybe like that, it's okay to like cut
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the tie to Traditions that don't serve you.
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And by listening to this episode, people might open their
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aperture to the fact that there might be like cool things that
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other people do that feel resonant to them that they can
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create their own Traditions when he brings up a really
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interesting point, though, that, And can either make you feel
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like Nostalgia and make you feel like the warm and fuzzies for
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the holidays of like, oh, I love this.
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I love listening to the music. The music brings us feeling and
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for me or the Christmas tree, you know, and decorating it and
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the light and that you're really enjoying it as a family or a
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tradition might bring up all these like expectations and it's
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like feeling of either guilt or dread or you know, whatever
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you're feeling. And that it's Empowering to say,
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you don't have to do all of the Traditions, you know, you can
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pick which ones are lighting you up and making, you feel the
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holiday come alive for you forces, which ones are kind of
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pushing you down and making you feel, you know, not great during
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this holiday season. Well, I don't know, and I think
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a ritual sometimes, I there's no feeling behind it.
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It's just an action that you're doing over and over and you
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might not have where tradition for me.
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Is you know I have all those nostalgic feelings and things
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but you know like you were talking about going to mass and
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how ritualistic that whole mass is.
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You could just go on autopilot and doing that little all those
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rituals and not you know, have any feelings behind it just
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because this is what you do every Sunday or you know,
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whatever. So I don't know when I hear
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ritual, I think of that more, because I grew up Catholic too.
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And so, I kind of just think of well, we're doing this again.
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You know, this is what we do kind of thing.
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But tradition, I have more of the feels behind that passed
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down, you know. I feel like some of the
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trickiest places contemporaries of mine who are in leadership
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roles, especially, like bigger companies have been is when they
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inherit a team. You know what, just came forward
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for me, when Whitney was speaking.
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Was that actually every work place culture has its own kind
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of culture and tradition? And oftentimes there are
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formalized through policy right and through rules of the
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workplace. Like I know when I was nursing
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we would have specific policies and procedures that are around
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everything right? And you could change them, you
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had to go through a formal process in order to change them.
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But when you come into a workplace, you immediately step
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into the traditions of that workplace, right?
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And you kind of have to assimilate and you don't
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necessarily always get to pick and choose but that those things
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can also shift and change over time.
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I am within that culture of that place and that maybe they do
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need to. And you also have rituals, you
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know, like when we give medication, we were actually
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wipe things down. We ritually, you know, the think
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we would check our medication. We do different things.
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So, it's interesting to think of ritual and tradition just within
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the workplace, and then also within the family environment
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because it within each family, we have our own kind of rules
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for the holidays. Right?
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Like, what are we eating? What are we doing for presents?
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What are we And for decorations and then kind of like each
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generation we're actually dealing with that or it's like
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each generation is kind of like maybe I want to do it a little
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bit differently. Like we're navigating that is
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like my brothers and I become adults and have our own children
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and like it kind of changes, you know, each generation.
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So it's interesting, I was thinking to just around the
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house like certain rituals, right?
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The way we wash our clothes, The Bold and put them away.
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You know, it's like constantly wash both.
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We don't think about it too much.
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We just do those things. It's good to reflect on it.
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I think a little bit because it's kind of what Melissa was
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saying we do go on autopilot and they just stack up.
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All of all the things quote were supposed to do, all those little
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do it this way. Through that way, you know that
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I love this thing. We think with your brain is
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learning that, you know, we talked about the habits all the
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time. So, like an art house for a
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laundry as you're talking about that, I used to do it all, like,
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you know, my husband. Everybody's and when the kids
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were younger and I basically said, you know, enough is
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enough, I don't want this role. And now we all do it on Saturday
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together. Like, it's already my kids are
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responsible for folding and hanging their stuff up.
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So we like I was able to like see it and be like I don't want
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this ritual anymore and we were able to like change that to a
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new tradition, the new expectation for everybody within
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the house and now I'm not doing everybody so you know yeah
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because of the tradition is the wife does all the laundry right
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Forever and Ever every year we my mom started helping us do a
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puzzle ever. A year her for Christmas and so
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it allowed her to do things while we were occupied as
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children. And so it's this puzzle with a
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bunch of different like Santa's on it and we the goal was that
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we had to have it done before Christmas basically to have it
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out and but we did it, we've done it every year consistently
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since we were children and we even do it now as adults.
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And it's just like, you know, a different family tradition.
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So that the same puzzle every year game puzzle.
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She's she's tried to buy a new Like buy one for each of our
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families so that we would have it and if they don't make it
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anymore, she can't replicate it. So she bought us each different
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puzzle so that we can have one for our family.
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So it's not the same one, but it's like the family prize.
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Like when we, when we have it it's very like coveted and you
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can't let any of the pieces get lost right.
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My gosh it's probably my favorite Christmas virtual that
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we do like we we we could talk about like the traditions of
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like going to get the tree together and like You get a live
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tree, like stuff like that, but we do an advent calendar.
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That's actually sewn by like a woman in my husband's family and
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there's a little pocket for each day and we write a little nice
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thing. We divvy them up and we write
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like a little things like really small things that we're going to
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do for each other and each morning.
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The person whose name it is draws one.
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So it might be something like like my daughter is like
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bringing breakfast to embed to my other daughter or like
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helping me more with dinner or it can also be something that's
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like nice for the community. So like one of my daughter's is
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like I'll pick up trash with you for 10 minutes with my husband
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you know so that's been nice anchors the giving sentiment of
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the season and kind of feel good and also I'm like allows us to
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kind of like slow down and remember what kind of what the
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seasons about. Some of my Favorite Christmas
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Memories have come from my childhood.
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And I've carried that into the way that we do Christmas today
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as an adult. And now that I have kids in my
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home that I'm raising. And one of these the most
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Cherished Memories, well, I would say to one of them the
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very, very first one that doesn't take a lot of
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explanation is simply that we keep Christmas together as a
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family that on Christmas Day. We don't go out.
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We don't go with our Friends, we don't go Christmas day is a day
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where we just spend it together and we have good food and we do
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puzzles. We play games and we really just
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spend time with each other. Maybe it's going through the
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things that we got, for Christmas learning, how to work
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the things that we got, maybe technology or gains or whatever.
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But regardless, it's just time that we spend together and that
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is one of the most cherished and simple traditions, that I
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learned, as a young child, Another thing that I really,
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really appreciate that. My parents taught me how to do
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is, how to give thoughtful and meaningful gifts, like the kind
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of gifts that really tug at someone's heartstrings, because
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they mean so much. One of the things that my
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parents did after my little girl passed away, is they gave us,
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they gave me gifts that were, you know, tender and meaningful,
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like, my mom gave me a Christmas Box.
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With the book, called The Christmas box and it was a story
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about loss and grief and fulfilling that and and kind of
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that all coming full circle. And it's a really beautiful
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story, my dad that same year, gave me music that I used to
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sing to my little girl. And I've received from my sister
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one year, a drawing like a pencil drawing of one of her
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pictures, one of her. Autographed.
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She hired an artist to to kind of redo that or bring that to
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life in a different way. So, those are just some examples
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of some gifts that were given around grief, but thoughtful
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gifts, show up in all kinds of ways.
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My dad always called himself Scrooge at Christmas and we
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received presence from Scrooge, as well as Santa Claus and the
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presence from Scrooge. Weren't like overdone, they were
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just meaningful. They were just small and
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meaningful for example. Oh, and one of the The greatest
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things about the Scrooge presence is that they were hid
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at the at the back of the tree, they were kind of the ones that
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were the last to open or the last to be found and our Scrooge
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presence that my dad would give us.
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Might be like dainty things for girls like necklaces or jewelry
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or something like that, that kind of was him really stepping
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into a world that he didn't know much about.
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But trying to dote on his girls. Maybe they were puzzles and
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things that we could do together as a family.
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And another thing, That Scrooge gave us that was extremely
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meaningful, that I loved so much was we would open a box with
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crisp money with the Declaration that the only way that that
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money was to be spent, was to be on a sister date with all three
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of us, sisters present, and he did that, as a way to help us
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build our relationships, you know, as we were going through
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life. So we would as sisters get to
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choose what we were going to do for our sister day that Was AKA,
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you know, sponsored by Scrooge. And it was such a beautiful
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thing. And then carrying that forward
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and and letting my boys experience, those same things,
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my dad has since passed away and we still have Scrooge presents.
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We saw this group presents under the tree.
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Because sometimes he, he puts a little idea into one of our
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hearts to carry forth for him and sometimes it's in memory of
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him. Sometimes, it's as simple as his
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favorite treats at Christmas, sometimes it's things like
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playing cards with customized photos on the back.
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That help us to remember him when we're spending time, as a
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family playing games. And sometimes, it's just things
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that help us remember him. Like little photos that are like
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cutouts of him like you know, or blankets that have his photo on
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on it or something that help us remember him at Christmas.
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These are the things that bring that richness to Christmas, that
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bring so much depth to the feeling and therefore the memory
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that we carry forth about our Christmas as with our family.
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And as I had mentioned in the opening, I have one more
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Christmas memory to share with you from Cindy, Emma theriot.
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She writes. Hello Yolanda.
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My favorite tradition. As a child was watching my
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mother set up the nativity scene.
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She always placed it in a prominent place, so it caught
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the eye of everyone that entered our house during the Christmas
00:23:52
season. When I was in the 7th grade, our
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school st. Ferdinand's put on a living
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nativity. There were students at played
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the roles of Mary Joseph and the It's the angel was played by my
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friend Susan backer, she stood on a platform above the crash,
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with her arms, spread in protective adoration.
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The rest of the school was on the stage and performed as a
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choir, it brought the meaning of Christmas truly alive.
00:24:20
For me, that year, these beautiful memories come back to
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me at Christmas when I set up my nativity scene, merry Christmas
00:24:29
and happy holidays to you. And to all What a nice way to
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end our episode today. Cindy, thanks for sharing this
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and thanks to everyone who is listening.
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